Ultimate Farming Guide for Empires and Puzzles

Farming guide updated March 2020

Farming in Empires and Puzzles is always different for each individual. That is because everyone has different needs – you might prioritize recruits because you have many new heroes that you are leveling, or you might prioritize certain crafting materials because you have been using those items frequently for your titan attacks.

This guide aims to provide you with all the essential information for you to spend your world energy to get you whatever resources you require efficiently.

The key star for this guide is farming for gems and farming for rare & Epic ascension items

Good luck and Happy Farming – use the table of contents to quickly navigate to whichever section you want to check out!

Best levels to Farm for Crafting items

  • Adenturer’s Kit S2: 1 (ALL)
  • Rugged Cloth S2: 4 (ALL)
  • Large Bone S1: 9-1
  • Leather Strips s1: 10(ALL)
  • Grimoire Dust S2: 10(ALL)
  • Midnight Roots S2: 12(ALL)
  • Hardwood Lumber S2: 19 (ALL)
  • Orichalcum Nugget S1: 5 (ALL)
  • Dragon Bone S2: 24 (ALL)

Farming for other Crafting items

refer to these charts

Season 1 Item farming

Farming for Crafting items - Season 1

Stage : Item

  1. Common herbs
  2. Large bone
  3. Leather strips
  4. Oil
  5. Clean Cloth
  6. Crude Iron
  7. String
  8. Common Herbs

Stage : Item

  1. Large Bone
  2. Leather Strips
  3. Crypt Mushroom
  4. Oil
  5. Clean cloth, Crystal Shard
  6. Crude Iron, Firestone
  7. Iron Ore, String
  8. Potent Leaves

Stage : Item

  1. Nil
  2. Sunspire Feather
  3. Fine Steel
  4. Grimoire Dust
  5. Hardwood Lumber
  6. Midnight Roots
  7. Firestone, Grimoire Dust

Season 2 / Atlantis Item Farming

Farming for Crafting items - Season 2

Stage : Item

  1. Clean Cloth
  2. Crystal Shard
  3. Iron Ore, Leather Strip
  4. Fine Steel
  5. Oil
  6. Large Bone, String
  7. Fine Steel
  8. Sunspire Feather

Stage : Item

  1. Common Herbs, Dragon Bone
  2. Grimoire Dust, String
  3. Iron Ore, Meteor Fragment
  4. Crude Iron, Midnight Root
  5. Fine Steel, Hardwood Lumber
  6. Orichalcum Nugget, Crypt Mushroom
  7. Potent Leaves, Firestone
  8. Orichalcum Nugget, Meteor Fragment

Stage : Item

  1. Oil, Grimoire Dust
  2. Crystal Shard, Orichalcum Nugget
  3. Potent Leaves, Hardwood Lumber
  4. Sunspire Feather, Dragon Bone
  5. Hardwood Lumber, Grimoire Dust
  6. Firestone, Meteor Fragment
  7. Crypt Mushroom, Midnight roots
  8. Midnight Roots, Dragon Bone

Best levels to farm: Recruits, exp, food & iron

  • Monster Chest S1: 7-4
  • Recruits S1: 6-8 S1: 8-7
  • Experience S1: 23-11
  • Food S2: 27 Hard (ALL)
  • Iron S1: 17-1
  • Feeder Heroes S1: Stages 1 to 8 & 9-1
  • Feeder Troops S1: Stages 3 to 8 & 9-1

Farming to complete Special Elemental Chest

Fire Chest Farming – Fire monsters

  • S2: 3-4 & 3-8 (39WE, ATLANTIS RISES ONLY)
  • S1: 4-1 (60WE)

Ice Chest Farming – Ice monsters

  • S1: 8-7 (42WE)

Nature Chest Farming – Nature monsters

  • S1: 6-3 (42WE)

Dark Chest Farming – Dark monsters

  • S1: 7-4 (36WE)
  • S1: 8-4 (42WE)

Holy Chest Farming – Holy monsters

  • S1: 10-6 (56WE)

Farming for Rare & EPIC ascension items

The thing about farming for these Rare and Epic Ascension materials that you are always short on is that it cannot be obtained from any of the wor

Oftentimes the limitation on being able to improve your team is the scarcity of high level ascension materials (also known as the ‘Mat Wall’). The rare & Epic ascension materials required for ascension are only obtainable via:

Broadly speaking, there are only three ways about this – Farm more, Spend more, or Choose to ascend heroes wisely. (You can read these guides on the best heroes in empires and puzzles, or look at all the heroes in empires and puzzles and how it ranks in certain aspects of the game)

Tips on Farming titans

First, we need to start off with understanding how titan loots are calculated.

TLDR; Below is the number of chances you get for “Ascension items” at each tier level.

Loot Tier 14-16: 4 (as of v21)
Loot Tier 9 to 13: 3
Loot Tier 2 to 8: 2
Loot Tier 1: 1

Therefore, the important Loot Tiers are Tier 9 & Tier 14.
To get Tier 9, you need a B score on an 8 star titan. OR A score on 7 star titan.

To get tier 14, you need an A score on a 12 star titan, or B score on a 13 star titan.

Now for the titan score that you are targeting:

  • A+: position based, rank 1 on the damage scorecard
  • A: position based, ranks 2-5 on the damage scorecard
  • B: ranks 6+, player must do at least 3.3% of the Titan’s HP in damage

And now – read our comprehensive guide to how to maximize your titan damage.

Farming Mission Chest

Your goal is to complete 4 chest everyday. 2 Monster Chest and 2 Hero Chest.

Farming monster chest

is very easy, and will take you only 15 minutes each chest.

  • Set up a farming team that can easily finish s1 : 7-4 on auto mode. Replay the stage for 6 to 7 times and you are done!
  • If you anticipate that you will face unfavourable timings to play Empires and Puzzles, spend 1 to 3 gems to “start next mission instantly” by tapping on the chest.

Farming hero chest

is a bit more complicated because it requires more time.

  • Only hero kills in tournament and raids count.
  • If a tournament run is active, try to win 6 raids with your raid flags, and use 2-3 tournament flags to complete the 40 hero kills.
  • Save the remaining 2-3 tournament flags to complete the second chest in the same day.
  • As the rewards for Hero chest is slightly better, it is okay to spend 4-6 gems each day to “start next mission instantly“.

Therefore your target is ALWAYS 8 flags 8 wins.

There are a two ways to do this:

  1. Cup dropping – intentionally setting weak heroes in your defense team, so that you will always get weak opponents.
  2. Being good in raids – tips & tricks here

You also do not need to worry about spending these gems excessively because each hero chest gives you an average of 5 gems per chest.

The most important fact is that by completing 4 mission chests everyday, it gives you a higher spawn of Special Elemental Chest & gives you more chances for ascension items.

Gems required to “start next mission instantly”

  • <53min59s : 1 gem
  • <1hr 29min: 2 gem
  • <2hr 04min: 3 gem
  • <2hr 34min: 4 gems

As you can see, “starting next mission immediately” with 3 gems would allow you to generate 2 more Raid flags to complete Hero chest every 12hours.

Winning Alliance Wars

Winning alliance war is a complicated matter – and so it deserves a whole post on its own. Check out our guide to winning alliance wars here

Each war chest require 25 points to fill. Each win is 5 points and each loss is 1 point.

If you joined an alliance midway through their War Chest, you will get a reduced loot based on the total number of wars you missed for that chest.

More Chest = More Loots.

Quickly, share with your guild members and leaders our guide to winning alliance wars.

Winning Tournament Raids and Tournament Loots

Winning Tournament raids consistently is difficult for many new players – a diverse depth of leveled heroes is required from the Rare, Epic and Legendary hero pool is the most important factor in winning Tournament raids.

That being said, you do not need to get the top 1% to be able to get Epic Ascension Materials.

Your target is top 10%.

To do well, read our guides on how you can win offensive raids and set up a good defense team for your tournament raids.

Hero pulls – Atlantis, Valhalla & Costume pulls

There’s simply no short cut for these, you have to work hard to farm the coins, or spend money to buy gems.

Check out our guide to farming atlantis coins during atlantis rises here.

Farming Mystic Vision

Mystic Vision occurs every 8 hours. Simply collect them on the dot. Setting an alarm to do so is the best

The odds of getting an Epic Ascension item in Mystic vision is low – it is about 1 in a 50-80 Mystic visions

Path of Valor

The first path of Valor was started on the 3rd of February 2020.

Check out the rewards here. You may purchase the path of valor pass after completing all 50 reward levels to collect all the rewards.

Rare Quest

The Six Rare Quests

Rare Quest Circular Order - Mariamne
Rare Quest Rotation (by Mariamne)

The rotation of the six quests is:

  1. Mount Umber
  2. Shrikewood
  3. Frostmarch
  4. Farholme Pass (1)
  5. Shiloh Desert
  6. Morlovia
  7. Farholme Pass (2)

Rare Quest Basics

A new rare quest comes around approximately once every two weeks and remains for just one day.  Each one consists in five stages of progressively more difficult enemies.  The Team Power level of these stages varies at approximately:

  1.   1400
  2.   1750
  3.   2250
  4.   2700
  5.   3250

Because of this, not everyone can complete the event, and it is necessary to employ skillful tactics in order to do so.  Enemy and boss details are provided through the links above to each rare quest listed.

Ascension Materials from Challenge Events

Rare ascension materials can be obtained from simply completing the challenge event at any rank for Rare, Epic and Legendary stages.

Epic Ascension Materials can be obtained from obtaining the following ranks:

  • Rare: Top 1000 (1 Epic Ascension Material) Estimated required score 750,000
  • Epic: Top 500 (1 Epic Ascension Material). Estimated required score: 950,000
  • Legendary: Top 100 (2 Epic Ascension Material.) Estimated required score: 1,180,000

Read our complete guide on scoring for challenge events.

That’s all the ways currently that you can farm Epic and Rare Ascension items there is.

Good luck and happy farming!

Farming during Atlantis Rises

Atlantis Rises is a monthly occurrence, each lasting 60 hours from Friday to Sunday. During Atlantis Rises, each atlantis stage has the World Energy cost reduced by 3 and every stage will have increased loot.

During each stage, there is a chance for an Orichalcum Seadragon to spawn. Killing these seadragons and completing the stage will give you 2,5 or 10 Atlantis Coins per seadragon.

Atlantis coins serves an important fuction for Free 2 Play players as it allows you to do Atlantis hero pulls every 100 coin.

Orichalcum Seadragon – Atlantis Rises

From our research, it seems that the “spawn rate” of an Orichalcum Seadragon during atlantis rises is a small chance of it replacing a monster in the stage. Therefore for the most efficient farming of Atlantis coins during Atlantis Rises, you want to farm the stages that have the most monsters per World Energy.

Farming Atlantis Coins during Atlantis Rises

The following are the stages with the most monsters per World Energy.

  • S2: 4-3 N (5.83 per Energy)
  • S2: 3-1, 2,5 (5 per Energy)
  • S2: 5-3 (5.17 per energy)
  • S2: 7-1 (5.33 per energy)
  • S2: 8-5 (5.17 per Energy)
  • S2: 9-4 (5.17 per energy)

The benefit of these early stages is that most players will be able to leave them to auto run while they busy themselves with other tasks – studying, working, reading etc.

Atlantis Rises Hero Pulls 2020

Atlantis Rises MonthHotm 1Hotm 2Atlantis 1Atlantis 2Current HOTM
February 2020DelilahFridaMok-ArrArielJean-Francois
March 2020AeronAnzoghInariUrsenaTelluria
April 2020AlasieMargaretTarlakMitsukoMalosi
May 2020GravemakerRanvirKageburadoAtomosClarissa
June 2020GregorionSeshatMisandraPoseidonRafaele
July 2020Drake FongMikiMok-ArrAriel
August 2020KhionaGrazulInariUrsena
September 2020AegirKingstonTarlakMitsuko
October 2020ZimkithaNeithKageburadoAtomos
November 2020EvelynGrimbleMisandraPoseidon
December 2020OnatelVelaMok-ArrAriel

Farming to complete Atlantis Missions

World energy is counted based on non-Atlantis Rises period

R – stands for number of Recruits you will be estimated to get.

Farming for Free Gems

Gems are important resource – solely for the fact that they are essential for you to do hero pulls to give you a chance to get the heroes that you want.

How to get free Gems in Empires and Puzzles?

  • Gem quest I & II – Spawn Rate is random
  • Mystic Vision
  • Mission Chest (Including Special Elemental Chest)
  • Path of Valor
  • Alliance war & War Chest
  • Titans and Titan Chest
  • Tournament Raids & loots

Most of these has already been covered under farming for Epic Ascension items. Check out that link for details on the above!

Farming for Emblems

An extensive guide has been written for farming for emblems over here!

That’s all for now folks! if you have made it all the way here, thank you!

I would like to give credit to Barryz Farmz for collating all this data and for making the first part of this Farming Guide possible.

17 thoughts on “Ultimate Farming Guide for Empires and Puzzles

  1. Are there any stats on monster colours in Atlantis? I have a purple elemental chest to fill but want to stay in season 2

    1. Hi David,

      For such a specific request, it is better to use Barry’s farming guide..

      His excel sheet has too much information that I did not think I would have space to input.

  2. Couple of comments:
    1) “If you joined an alliance midway through their War Chest, you will get a reduced loot based on the total number of wars you missed for that chest”. This is incorrect. It’s not the number of wars, but how many points scored youve been a part of. E.g: you joined when there was 20/25 points in the war chest, but that was from a win streak of 4 wars (=20 points), but now your alliance is on a loss streak with 5 losses. You dont get a % based on 5 out of 9. You get 20% participation from those 5 points.

    2) Because of the Iron/food/item harvesters we can get it would be nice if you had a list over where you get the most of e.g food in S1. But even better would be from all seasons. I think BArry_farms have a good guide regarding this (for seasons 1 and 2 at least).

    Thanks for a very good site!


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